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Tuesday, May 31, 2016

Problems with ELCA

I grew up mostly in this denomination..... though I had influence from anabaptist and other types of things.  I was a part of their summer camps and college.   The intellectual challenges in college were sufficient for a challenging college.   I made some friends through this denomination.  But among those 'friends' there were the 'mockers'....... these are the types that 'mock' everything and they have no scripture knowledge or biblical definitions to determine that this is wrong.

Unfortunately, this denomination favors 'man made reason' over the solid word of God for support.  If you or a friend are in this denomination you can a. encourage them to get the local church to change the Lutheran denomination to another more scriptural supportive Lutheran denomination.   People need the scripture to learn how to interact with people in a godly way.  This can be between spouses, with elders, with children and more.  "man cannot live on bread alone' or b. Encourage the friend to attend a biblical based church that specifically studies bible in a deeper sense.  Examples may be Independent Fundamental Baptist,  Seventh Day Adventist,  Messianic, any born again type of group etc.

Here is a website that specifically points out problems of the ELCA....

http://www.exposingtheelca.com/

I pray that friends who are a part of this denomination would consider more scriptural supportive way of life and fellowship.

Some of my ancestors that came to America as Norwegian immigrants helped start the ELCA church I grew up within.  They started it in a simple way, as people were close to the land and close to God in those days.   But because satan comes around, we need to reproove and correct bad doctrines and ideas.

You too can start up a simple home-church with this book.   You do not need to be supper talented, only willing.  http://raggedycottagegarden.blogspot.com/2016/05/bible-studies-and-reflections-book.html

Sunday, May 29, 2016

Squarefoot garden is growing.... and some potted plants....




The above image is a couple of baskets with grass woven into the baskets to prevent dirt from falling through.  The baskets are CHEAP..... so these are really quick large potting containers.   The bottom image shows the squarefoot garden growing.  It consists of a four foot by four foot table that is eighteen inches off of the ground.  Many types of plants in one small space.  I'm not concerned if things get over crowded......I'm more concerned if animals eat the plants before they are harvested..... we also have some interesting vandalism neighbors..... so much for public education!

Friday, May 27, 2016

A simple book to help children (and adults too) understand God

http://astore.amazon.com/raggedycottag-20/detail/0802840353

If a person would like to help children understand God quickly and efficiently, they may start with this book, anytime you can get a child's attention, the child will grasp concepts in this book.  A parent may use this book.  A Sabbath School teacher may also use this book.  Essentially, the child should come to learn how to effectively read the bible, without error in literacy skill.

'Leading Little One's to God'  

Many of the terms referenced in this book do not indicate preference for a specific denomination except for mention of 'sunday' as sabbath.... but this is only mentioned in about one paragraph.

Of course you may complete all the lessons in about 80 days... but you can speed up the time to thirty days if the lessons are read three or four at a time.

Feel free to browse my amazon store and find other items that may be useful for you.

Thursday, May 26, 2016

Bible Studies and Reflections Book



This is a book I have created that is for you to start up a church group in your own home, or to use in an already established denomination church (I make NO distinction on what DOCTRINE the church follows....only revealing of what it means to be free from bondage of sin).  Basically it includes daily bible reading suggestions and readings that should be completed once a week together as a group.  It also includes suggestions on how to incorporate qumran calendar studies and  astronomy studies.  There are suggestions on how to SIMPLY supply an entertaining way to present hymns, sermons and other common Christian themes.  The KJV bible was printed within the book in a large print size so that it is possible for a group of people to get together from any age group.

Would you like to start up a small group bible study or home-church group?  Feel free to purchase this book.

I will continue to print these books once every season.  So Thirteen weeks of bible study suggestions are included.

please email me at spildelaura@gmail.com to request any number of books.

Click on "Fellowship Gathering" to get an idea about what type of materials you may find within this book.

There are only 6 weeks left to this season.....so I will be working on the Summer Season book.

Monday, May 23, 2016

Dealing with and redirecting LGBT people.

1. Do not assume people who are not in the LGBT category are free from 'sin.'  No this is not so, they may have tendency to fornication, pornography gambling and so forth just like they have issues.  The issue with LGBT persons, is the lack of restraint in worship of 'self.'  Essentially they have believed so many lies in their lifetime that the truth has departed from them.

2. Do not assume LGBT people are 'stupid.'  No they know a lot of things and may hold high college degrees.  However, they have departed from God's word.  His simple word to lead them to truth.  If they ignore, scorn or deride you.  It is time to let them go to Satan and deliver them to the place where they will go unless they repent. As simple as remembering to feed your soul as it is to remember to water your plants each day.  They have ignored God's word, thus they chose sin.

3. When correcting them with gospel, do not use angry tones or words.  Ensure that the holy spirit has driven that out of your heart.  Anger will never correct their anger to believe human sexuality some how saves men and give love.  Holding up signs may or may not lead them from their love for darkness and hatred of the light.

4. Allow the limit of three times correction.  Once privately perhaps with a bible tract or resource to help them overcome bondage, another openly correct and finally another with clear biblical directions that repentance is neccesary.    If they continue to fault find in your biblical guidance, you do not need to correct any longer.  You need to 'shun' them and consider them ungodly fruitful worker for satan.

5. If they attack or belittle you, you need to depart from their midst, and trust God as overseer for their wicked heart to correct. Some people may say, oh but they are so kind.  They may appear kind, but they do not have God's word stored in their heart, so it is a 'political' kindness, not the kindness of Christ.

6. Correcting LGBT behaviour does not mean that 'love' should be eliminated from churches.  No, it means that 'love' is controlled by guidance of holy spirit, and not by sensual pleasures of meaninglessness.   The church should essentially pray for lost souls, even those whom need correction.

7. Note: If a family member (It could be a mother or father, it could be aunt or uncle, it could be sister or brother) happens to embrace this lifestyle, you as a Christian do not have to support them in any way.  God supplies needs, not politicians.  You do not have to feel obligated to attend weddings, birthdays or other social events.  You may even need to go as far as avoiding social events for couples who are divorced and remarried(rarely is the case a divorce because of pedophillia or previous ungodly marriage relationship).  Such was abomination (divorce and remarriage) to John the Baptist, and it still leads people into sin problems.

This is a post I wrote earlier that give clear biblical directions: Why Lgbt people are not really Christians but need biblical love and direction






Square Foot Garden



The image is upside down, but this is a picture of our square foot garden.  It is basically aluminum foil pans with the bottoms cut out of them to divide the different plant types.  I plan to water everyday and fertilize every week to keep the plants healthy.

Costs? Table was 30$ of lumber n' nails, Pans were 1$ per two  pans,  Seeds ....we bought 30$ worth of different varieties, Dirt ...when we bought it, the cost was about 2$ per bag to cover 2 sq. ft. other wise my parents farm had a lot of compost dirt.

Sunday, May 22, 2016

Making some charts for home education

Charts for home education.

Today I made some simple charts for home education organization.

Basically, it entails filling in basic blanks where information may be entered such as 'classic composer' of the week or month, 'plant or animal' study and so forth.  Its a simple method of helping to keep track of what was learned and what to focus on for the week.

Since we live in a small space, I put these charts on the inside of our cupboards rather than filling up a special home-school room.  Although I would love to have a home-school room, I know that it is not happening this year any time soon.

I will be using our 200 Day biblical classical curriculum 
If you are looking to start homeschooling and need a simple way to begin, feel free to use our curriculum.  It is very affordable.

Friday, May 20, 2016

Sewing your own washclothes




Sorry for blurry images, I am not one to find appropriate camera's for photos.  Although I did see a blog post once that described how to create catalog quality images.  Basically it involved putting the items in a white box.

These are some washclothes I sewed today.  I had some scrap fabric which I put on the back.  I purchased the 'gauze' fabric from the local fabric store.    Basically it is a basic sewing tech niche of right sides together, turn inside out and then zigzag the edges.

Think of other things you could sew for your home instead of purchasing cheaply made low quality or 'slave worker' made items in your own home.

Thursday, May 19, 2016

Seven Snares of the Enemy

http://astore.amazon.com/raggedycottag-20/detail/0802411649

Click on the link above and view book to help you get freedom from sin.  I've read this book and it is a good resource to help understand how God's word helps eliminate sin.  I appreciate books that highlight the power of God's word.  You can click on the link above to purchase through my amazon store or you can browse around my store for any other items I recommend.

The link to my store is in the upper right corner of this blog.

Wednesday, May 18, 2016

Ways to make a little income on the internet

This type of income is not guaranteed to help you 'survive.'  It would be more reliable to put an advertisement in the local paper stating that you want to mow lawns and do various odd jobs for people.  However, you can make some income through the internet.

1. www.inboxdollars.com This one is great and simple if you don't want to use a lot of brain power.

2. www.elitewriters.org If you feel like telling people various things from how-to's to how your day goes and enjoy sharing this on social media, this is a way to make a few pennies per article you write  A person can write just about anything and they don't have to have perfect grammar.

3. Self Publish.  www.amazon.com has a method to self-publish e-books!  There are other ways to publish e-books, but this is so simple and easy to use.  I have some links in the corner of my blog at the upper right of books I have published.

4. If you are active blogger, you could motivate others to purchase through 'amazon associates'  This is a great way to set up a mini store and make a bit of income.  Select books you would like to sell.  I have a little store that I created many years ago, (link in upper right hand corner) that you are free to observe items for sale.

5. General blogging.  Adjust a blogger site to accept google ad-sense advertizement.  This can take awhile to generate income, but if you are active enough in blogging and have enough content, you too could make good income.

To be successful with internet income, make sure to organize your time on each website and the activities you would like to accomplish, this way you are doing something to generate income, but not spending too much time so that you can enjoy regular activities in life.  Always take a 'sabbath day' of rest.

Tuesday, May 17, 2016

How to do Laundry Off-the-grid

First of all.  You DO NOT need expensive old-fashioned looking equipment to do laundry by hand in an off-the-grid fashion.  However, you do need to accept that clothing will not wring out as well as a washing machine and stains may or may not come out as easily as if they were washed in a washing-machine.

1. Gather your supplies.
Essential items: a tub, regular laundry soap, drying rack or line ;

Other helpful items: clean plunger-helps to stir the water in the tub, a special dome tub like a cattle size watering bucket (totes work but do wear out quickly and are thin plastic), washboard made out of a cookie drying rack or sturdy rocky surface, two rolling pins tied together with elastic and fishing-line loops (elastic allows springing of clothes, fishing line loops help keep pins tight), clean rubber boots (stomp those clothes).....  You can buy professional off-the-grid laundry materials, but it actually isn't necessary.

2. Fill the tub about 1/2 full of Hot -water (if using a bath-tub only fill 1/4 full).  Add the laundry detergent and let is dissolve.  Add the laundry.  Let it soak for 15 minutes.  You can use the option of adding boiling hot water to your laundry if you would like.

3. Stomp the laundry for 10 minutes.

4. Drain the laundry.

5. Check for clothing items that have a lot of stain.  Use a washboard and special soap if needed for those items in this step.

6. Add cold rinse water.  Use about 1/2 as much water as used in wash cycle.

7. Add softener in the first rinse cycle only.

8. Stomp for 5 minutes.  Drain.

9. Repeat step 6 and 8 for 3 total rinse cycles.

10. Wring the clothes.  Use a twisting method alone or pull clothes between two rolling pins.  Hold the rolling pins at the bottom of boots while sitting at the edge of a bathtub and pull clothes through.  Towels need at least two pulls through the rolling pins to get majority of water out of the towels.

11. Dry the clothes!  Towels and such may need an electric dry cycle to fluff them up a bit, but you do not need to spend tons of money on drying if they are air-dried first! Also, remember that clothes can actually be hung out to dry on the line in the middle of winter!  Yes, most clothes do dry in cold air.  Occasionally on wind-less days, the clothes will not dry, however.

Sunday, May 15, 2016

An off the grid resource

A place to find information about off the grid living.  Note: Off the grid living DOES NOT prevent moral calamities (addictions, sexual impurity(yes, people made unusual choices back then from polyamoury to divorce n' remarriage to polygammy etc), eating disorders, mental health problems).  However, the practices of off the grid living can eliminate financial strain, improve human relationships and create a more valuable life.  Daily bible reading is a suggestion for that reason.

http://www.pocketsofthefuture.com/


Friday, May 13, 2016

Copy and Paste from Cafe-mom. Question asked: Do anti-biblical people also possess anti-semitism traits?

This is long.  The names were not removed from this Study.  But definitely one can sense some infestations of insulting as "greatest joy" among some commenters.......



by 4evrinbluejeans KK on May. 11, 2016 at 3:15 PM
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Many Christian nations and leaders turned a blind eye to the atrocities in Germany prior to world war II.  It was only after those nations were directly attacked that they engaged.

  According to Professor Willilam Nichols, a former minister of the Anglican Church and the founder of Religious studies at the Unversity of British Columbia, Christian teaching is primarily responsible for antisemitism.

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by romalove Roma on May. 11, 2016 at 3:16 PM
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I don't know what you're ranting about.

There are many people who don't believe in the Bible but are not anti-semitic.  Why do you think people who don't believe in the Bible are "haters"?

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by Raggedylaura Member on May. 11, 2016 at 3:18 PM


QuoHow ting 4evrinbluejeans:
Many Christian nations and leaders turned a blind eye to the atrocities in Germany prior to world war II.  It was only after those nations were directly attacked that they engaged.

  According to Professor Willilam Nichols, a former minister of the Anglican Church and the founder of Religious studies at the Unversity of British Columbia, Christian teaching is primarily responsible for antisemitism.

How much do you know about constantine????  Discernment is imperative to such arguments derived from atheistic scholars.

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by Bookwormy Ruby Member on May. 11, 2016 at 3:32 PM
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You realize that messianic Judaism is a denomination of Christianity and not a branch of Judaism, right?

Not believing in the bible doesn't mean one is anti-Christian or antisemitic. Not believing in G-d doesn't make you anti-Christian or antisemitic. Believing Jesus is god or the son of G-d does not make you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Jews makes you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Christians makes you anti-Christian. Being hateful towards Muslims makes you Islamophobic. Being hateful towards non-believers makes you a bigot. Etc.

Your survey makes no sense. Which is typical.
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by algorithmnation Member on May. 11, 2016 at 3:36 PM
Believe it or not, every single day, all around the world, people demonstrate love despite religion. How did you come to the conclusion that those who don't believe in the Christian bible are anti-semetic?

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by RaverLady Bronze Member on May. 11, 2016 at 3:43 PM
Mild belief in nice gods is what causes this.





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by Momniscient Obama licker on May. 11, 2016 at 3:44 PM
Oh. Ok. I get it now.
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by 4evrinbluejeans KK on May. 11, 2016 at 3:53 PM


Quoting Raggedylaura:


QuoHow ting 4evrinbluejeans:
Many Christian nations and leaders turned a blind eye to the atrocities in Germany prior to world war II.  It was only after those nations were directly attacked that they engaged.

  According to Professor Willilam Nichols, a former minister of the Anglican Church and the founder of Religious studies at the Unversity of British Columbia, Christian teaching is primarily responsible for antisemitism.

How much do you know about constantine????  Discernment is imperative to such arguments derived from atheistic scholars.

I'm not sure discernment is a trait you hold, given the completely incoherent and off kilter posts we have seen from you since you joined.

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by bluerooffarm Bronze Member on May. 11, 2016 at 4:12 PM
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Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.

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by Momniscient Obama licker on May. 11, 2016 at 4:21 PM
Well in another post there was ranting about how pro aborts are just as nuts as Down syndrome people...

So I think I now get that there is crazy going on.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.




by bluerooffarm Bronze Member on May. 11, 2016 at 4:26 PM
Oh ok.   I'mve been trying to get a handle on this poster, but I've been failing.  I figured it might be a language problem though.

Quoting Momniscient: Well in another post there was ranting about how pro aborts are just as nuts as Down syndrome people... So I think I now get that there is crazy going on.
Quoting bluerooffarm:

Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.



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by Raggedylaura Member on May. 11, 2016 at 4:30 PM
If a person visits israel..... there will be tons of down syndrome children.   most jewish people don't believe in terminating their own children.....their own future and possibly their only hope.





so it is true.  anti biblical people are also anti semetic since þey are anti down syndrome raising types....haters of the disabled basically.

most Quoting bluerooffarm:
Oh ok.   I'mve been trying to get a handle on this poster, but I've been failing.  I figured it might be a language problem though.

Quoting Momniscient: Well in another post there was ranting about how pro aborts are just as nuts as Down syndrome people... So I think I now get that there is crazy going on.
Quoting bluerooffarm:

Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.




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by MyMyOhMy Silver Member on May. 11, 2016 at 4:34 PM
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Whatever the OP is smoking, I would recommend backing off.

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by Donna6503 Platinum Member on May. 11, 2016 at 4:34 PM
J Vernon McGee has been dead for some 30 years ok?

So has Walter Martin, well not 30 years but close.

Please move-on
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by bluerooffarm Bronze Member on May. 11, 2016 at 4:36 PM
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There is a jump in logic there.  Why do you believe that people who don't believe in the Bible are anti-down-syndrome?  Where do you get the information that atheists or agnostics are anti-down-syndrome?

And then there is a leap in logic where someone who is anti-downsyndrome is anti-semetic.  Just because there are children with downsyndrome being raised in the Jewish faith doesn't mean that someone who is anti-downs would be anti-all Jewish people of faith.

Quoting Raggedylaura:
If a person visits israel..... there will be tons of down syndrome children.   most jewish people don't believe in terminating their own children.....their own future and possibly their only hope.





so it is true.  anti biblical people are also anti semetic since þey are anti down syndrome raising types....haters of the disabled basically.

most Quoting bluerooffarm:
Oh ok.   I'mve been trying to get a handle on this poster, but I've been failing.  I figured it might be a language problem though.

Quoting Momniscient: Well in another post there was ranting about how pro aborts are just as nuts as Down syndrome people... So I think I now get that there is crazy going on.
Quoting bluerooffarm:

Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.






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by 4evrinbluejeans KK on May. 11, 2016 at 4:43 PM
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You homeschool your children don't you.



Quoting Raggedylaura:
If a person visits israel..... there will be tons of down syndrome children.   most jewish people don't believe in terminating their own children.....their own future and possibly their only hope.





so it is true.  anti biblical people are also anti semetic since þey are anti down syndrome raising types....haters of the disabled basically.

most Quoting bluerooffarm:
Oh ok.   I'mve been trying to get a handle on this poster, but I've been failing.  I figured it might be a language problem though.

Quoting Momniscient: Well in another post there was ranting about how pro aborts are just as nuts as Down syndrome people... So I think I now get that there is crazy going on.
Quoting bluerooffarm:

Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.






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by Momniscient Obama licker on May. 11, 2016 at 4:47 PM
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Yeah. I think this goes beyond a language problem :/

Quoting Raggedylaura:
If a person visits israel..... there will be tons of down syndrome children.   most jewish people don't believe in terminating their own children.....their own future and possibly their only hope.

so it is true.  anti biblical people are also anti semetic since þey are anti down syndrome raising types....haters of the disabled basically.

most Quoting bluerooffarm:
Oh ok.   I'mve been trying to get a handle on this poster, but I've been failing.  I figured it might be a language problem though.

Quoting Momniscient: Well in another post there was ranting about how pro aborts are just as nuts as Down syndrome people...

So I think I now get that there is crazy going on.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.


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by LGAll65 Silver Member on May. 11, 2016 at 4:51 PM
Yah , no kidding .
I'm confused .LOL


Quoting romalove:
I don't know what you're ranting about.

There are many people who don't believe in the Bible but are not anti-semitic.  Why do you think people who don't believe in the Bible are "haters"?

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by LGAll65 Silver Member on May. 11, 2016 at 4:52 PM
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Lord help them

Quoting 4evrinbluejeans:
You homeschool your children don't you.


Quoting Raggedylaura:
If a person visits israel..... there will be tons of down syndrome children.   most jewish people don't believe in terminating their own children.....their own future and possibly their only hope.

so it is true.  anti biblical people are also anti semetic since þey are anti down syndrome raising types....haters of the disabled basically.

most Quoting bluerooffarm:
Oh ok.   I'mve been trying to get a handle on this poster, but I've been failing.  I figured it might be a language problem though.

Quoting Momniscient: Well in another post there was ranting about how pro aborts are just as nuts as Down syndrome people...

So I think I now get that there is crazy going on.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.



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by D-Town Platinum Member on May. 11, 2016 at 5:20 PM
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Dude. Seriously?





by WaterorWine Χριστιανός on May. 11, 2016 at 5:26 PM
I tend to find the opposite to be true. It is socially expected of secular liberals to be respectful and tolerant of Jews and Muslims (or any minority) however, this does not apply to Christians. There are a few consistent ones who hate them all, like bill maher.

Unless you consider the anti-Israel pro Palestine people antisemetic? That I can see.
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by LauraKW "Dude!" on May. 11, 2016 at 6:38 PM
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Would you like a glass of water?
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by Donna6503 Platinum Member on May. 11, 2016 at 6:42 PM
If Cafemom had a Hall of Fame of dumb posts, I think post would be a first ballot entry.
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by Donna6503 Platinum Member on May. 11, 2016 at 6:43 PM
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Trump Water, please

Quoting LauraKW: Would you like a glass of water?
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by LauraKW "Dude!" on May. 11, 2016 at 6:44 PM
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Vodka & water maybe.

Quoting Donna6503: Trump Water, please

Quoting LauraKW: Would you like a glass of water?
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by Rhodin Bronze Member on May. 11, 2016 at 6:48 PM
You can be a non-Christian who is at worst indifferent to Jews.
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by 4evrinbluejeans KK on May. 11, 2016 at 7:07 PM
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I don't know I think her lesbian clergy watching porn while having abortions while getting coffee in Muslim coffee shops gives this one a run for the title.

Quoting Donna6503: If Cafemom had a Hall of Fame of dumb posts, I think post would be a first ballot entry.


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by Ms.KitKat Platinum Member on May. 11, 2016 at 7:10 PM

Then there are those who HATE the bible.  they hate everything it says.  They believe it make women suffer and muslim get no voice......

so what again?

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by Donna6503 Platinum Member on May. 11, 2016 at 7:11 PM
Yeah, she may indeed have a lot of her posts making the dumb Hall of Fame post.

She will probably have her own special wing.

I still don't think her wing will be as large as the Moms Confession Wing; but close.


Quoting 4evrinbluejeans:
I don't know I think her lesbian clergy watched no porn while having abortions while getting coffee in Muslim coffee shops gives this one a run for the title.

Quoting Donna6503: If Cafemom had a Hall of Fame of dumb posts, I think post would be a first ballot entry.

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by msb64 Bronze Member on May. 11, 2016 at 7:26 PM
Does one not believing the Bible as a literal text equate to being "anti-biblical" or "hating" the Bible?







by Kwitcherbetchen Member on May. 11, 2016 at 7:56 PM
Why wouldn't it be anti-islamic? A phobia is a fear. just because a person does not like islamic people does not mean they fear them.

Quoting Bookwormy: You realize that messianic Judaism is a denomination of Christianity and not a branch of Judaism, right?

Not believing in the bible doesn't mean one is anti-Christian or antisemitic. Not believing in G-d doesn't make you anti-Christian or antisemitic. Believing Jesus is god or the son of G-d does not make you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Jews makes you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Christians makes you anti-Christian. Being hateful towards Muslims makes you Islamophobic. Being hateful towards non-believers makes you a bigot. Etc.

Your survey makes no sense. Which is typical.
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by ..MoonShine.. Redwood Witch on May. 11, 2016 at 8:26 PM
Oh dear.
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by Bookwormy Ruby Member on May. 11, 2016 at 8:49 PM
I don't know; I didn't coin the term. Semitic can refer to Muslims as well, so I assume it is to differentiate. But I really don't know. I didn't coin the term homophobia either.

Quoting Kwitcherbetchen: Why wouldn't it be anti-islamic? A phobia is a fear. just because a person does not like islamic people does not mean they fear them.

Quoting Bookwormy: You realize that messianic Judaism is a denomination of Christianity and not a branch of Judaism, right?

Not believing in the bible doesn't mean one is anti-Christian or antisemitic. Not believing in G-d doesn't make you anti-Christian or antisemitic. Believing Jesus is god or the son of G-d does not make you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Jews makes you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Christians makes you anti-Christian. Being hateful towards Muslims makes you Islamophobic. Being hateful towards non-believers makes you a bigot. Etc.

Your survey makes no sense. Which is typical.
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by D-Town Platinum Member on May. 11, 2016 at 10:03 PM
No. I think this is third place her first 2 posts about pedophile lesbian preachers were even more dumb.



Either that or we just aren't smoking the same shit she is and she isn't sharing so we'll never be able to lower our intelligence enough to understand her.

Quoting Donna6503: If Cafemom had a Hall of Fame of dumb posts, I think post would be a first ballot entry.


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by D-Town Platinum Member on May. 11, 2016 at 10:08 PM
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Probably because the hatred stems from fear. People who hate Muslims do so because they are afraid that the Arab person sitting 4 rows in front of them has a bomb strapped to their chest and are going to take the whole plane/bus/taxi/building down with them. People who are homophobic are afraid that they will "catch the gay" or that it is somehow contagious. They're going to catch AIDS if they sit next to one. They're transphobic because they're afraid that the cute guy/girl they were flirting with might actually be a girl/guy and if they're attracted to them it means they themselves are gay.

Quoting Kwitcherbetchen: Why wouldn't it be anti-islamic? A phobia is a fear. just because a person does not like islamic people does not mean they fear them.
Quoting Bookwormy: You realize that messianic Judaism is a denomination of Christianity and not a branch of Judaism, right? Not believing in the bible doesn't mean one is anti-Christian or antisemitic. Not believing in G-d doesn't make you anti-Christian or antisemitic. Believing Jesus is god or the son of G-d does not make you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Jews makes you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Christians makes you anti-Christian. Being hateful towards Muslims makes you Islamophobic. Being hateful towards non-believers makes you a bigot. Etc. Your survey makes no sense. Which is typical.


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by Bookwormy Ruby Member on May. 11, 2016 at 10:44 PM
I don't think that this is a true statistic. I don't think that there are a ton of people with downs syndrome in Israel.

Observant Jews restrict abortion to the health or life of the mother, but then it is mandatory to have the abortion

More importantly, abortion is perfectly legal in Israel for birth defects, unmarried women, minors, advanced maternal age, rape, & incest. When it isn't legal you can still get a private abortion illegally. A private physician hasn't ever been prosecuted for illegal abortions in Israel.

Most importantly, you don't know jack about Judaism, my religion or my culture.

Therefore, you are full of shit.

ETA: Israel often financially subsidizes legal abortions!

Quoting Raggedylaura:
If a person visits israel..... there will be tons of down syndrome children.   most jewish people don't believe in terminating their own children.....their own future and possibly their only hope.

so it is true.  anti biblical people are also anti semetic since þey are anti down syndrome raising types....haters of the disabled basically.

most Quoting bluerooffarm:
Oh ok.   I'mve been trying to get a handle on this poster, but I've been failing.  I figured it might be a language problem though.

Quoting Momniscient: Well in another post there was ranting about how pro aborts are just as nuts as Down syndrome people...



So I think I now get that there is crazy going on.



Quoting bluerooffarm:

Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.


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by Bookwormy Ruby Member on May. 11, 2016 at 10:57 PM
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Uh-Oh...you're in trouble!

Quoting msb64:
Does one not believing the Bible as a literal text equate to being "anti-biblical" or "hating" the Bible?

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by ReadWriteLuv Silver Member on May. 11, 2016 at 11:01 PM
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What are you even talking about??????

Quoting Raggedylaura:
If a person visits israel..... there will be tons of down syndrome children.   most jewish people don't believe in terminating their own children.....their own future and possibly their only hope.

so it is true.  anti biblical people are also anti semetic since þey are anti down syndrome raising types....haters of the disabled basically.

most Quoting bluerooffarm:
Oh ok.   I'mve been trying to get a handle on this poster, but I've been failing.  I figured it might be a language problem though.

Quoting Momniscient: Well in another post there was ranting about how pro aborts are just as nuts as Down syndrome people...

So I think I now get that there is crazy going on.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.


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by Bookwormy Ruby Member on May. 11, 2016 at 11:03 PM
That's what I was just guessing too but my wife says we are wrong. She says they both come from xenophobia - fear of the stranger. But sometimes people aren't really afraid of difference either, they just hate it.

Quoting D-Town:
Probably because the hatred stems from fear. People who hate Muslims do so because they are afraid that the Arab person sitting 4 rows in front of them has a bomb strapped to their chest and are going to take the whole plane/bus/taxi/building down with them. People who are homophobic are afraid that they will "catch the gay" or that it is somehow contagious. They're going to catch AIDS if they sit next to one. They're transphobic because they're afraid that the cute guy/girl they were flirting with might actually be a girl/guy and if they're attracted to them it means they themselves are gay.

Quoting Kwitcherbetchen: Why wouldn't it be anti-islamic? A phobia is a fear. just because a person does not like islamic people does not mean they fear them.

Quoting Bookwormy: You realize that messianic Judaism is a denomination of Christianity and not a branch of Judaism, right?

Not believing in the bible doesn't mean one is anti-Christian or antisemitic. Not believing in G-d doesn't make you anti-Christian or antisemitic. Believing Jesus is god or the son of G-d does not make you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Jews makes you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Christians makes you anti-Christian. Being hateful towards Muslims makes you Islamophobic. Being hateful towards non-believers makes you a bigot. Etc.

Your survey makes no sense. Which is typical.

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by Bookwormy Ruby Member on May. 11, 2016 at 11:06 PM
Ignorant ramblings, that's what she's talking about. She says stupid ignorant uneducated shit about Israel & accuses others of being antisemitic! Oy Vey...

Quoting ReadWriteLuv: What are you even talking about??????

Quoting Raggedylaura:
If a person visits israel..... there will be tons of down syndrome children.   most jewish people don't believe in terminating their own children.....their own future and possibly their only hope.

so it is true.  anti biblical people are also anti semetic since þey are anti down syndrome raising types....haters of the disabled basically.

most Quoting bluerooffarm:
Oh ok.   I'mve been trying to get a handle on this poster, but I've been failing.  I figured it might be a language problem though.

Quoting Momniscient: Well in another post there was ranting about how pro aborts are just as nuts as Down syndrome people...

So I think I now get that there is crazy going on.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.










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by D-Town Platinum Member on May. 12, 2016 at 6:28 AM
Xenophobia is a fear. Those crazy brown skinned foreigners are coming over and introducing strange customs and ideas. Our kids might like those customs.

Quoting Bookwormy: That's what I was just guessing too but my wife says we are wrong. She says they both come from xenophobia - fear of the stranger. But sometimes people aren't really afraid of difference either, they just hate it.

Quoting D-Town:
Probably because the hatred stems from fear. People who hate Muslims do so because they are afraid that the Arab person sitting 4 rows in front of them has a bomb strapped to their chest and are going to take the whole plane/bus/taxi/building down with them. People who are homophobic are afraid that they will "catch the gay" or that it is somehow contagious. They're going to catch AIDS if they sit next to one. They're transphobic because they're afraid that the cute guy/girl they were flirting with might actually be a girl/guy and if they're attracted to them it means they themselves are gay.

Quoting Kwitcherbetchen: Why wouldn't it be anti-islamic? A phobia is a fear. just because a person does not like islamic people does not mean they fear them.

Quoting Bookwormy: You realize that messianic Judaism is a denomination of Christianity and not a branch of Judaism, right?

Not believing in the bible doesn't mean one is anti-Christian or antisemitic. Not believing in G-d doesn't make you anti-Christian or antisemitic. Believing Jesus is god or the son of G-d does not make you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Jews makes you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Christians makes you anti-Christian. Being hateful towards Muslims makes you Islamophobic. Being hateful towards non-believers makes you a bigot. Etc.

Your survey makes no sense. Which is typical.

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by heresjohnny Bronze Member on May. 12, 2016 at 6:41 AM
I can't claim to know what other atheists believe. As for myself, I hate Christianity...but I don't hate Christians. Same for other religions. In fact, I often find myself arguing in favor of religious rights. So long as their rights don't trample mine or others.
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by Raggedylaura Member on May. 12, 2016 at 7:34 AM
So basically anti-biblical people do have some form of anti-semetism.   They don't awknowledge that Paul was Jewish and did participate in Sabbath day activities.   Acts 18:4

(4)  And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.




Also notice that the verse says EVERY Sabbath.


Then there was Constantine.  If people don't know his moral condition...... He was very supersticious...... and he attempted changing biblical laws.....etc etc.  If he was a 'Christian' then how can a christian be a christian if they murder their own family members?
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by Raggedylaura Member on May. 12, 2016 at 7:39 AM
Hatred comes from inside your inability to recognize you are an unjust person from the beginning.  I have cousins who look like the 'boston bomber'........ they cleverly hate the muslim religion but put up with it.   perhaps you can't remember anything about the armenian genocide??????   That explains your foolish talk and anti-christ behaviours.

Quoting D-Town:
Probably because the hatred stems from fear. People who hate Muslims do so because they are afraid that the Arab person sitting 4 rows in front of them has a bomb strapped to their chest and are going to take the whole plane/bus/taxi/building down with them. People who are homophobic are afraid that they will "catch the gay" or that it is somehow contagious. They're going to catch AIDS if they sit next to one. They're transphobic because they're afraid that the cute guy/girl they were flirting with might actually be a girl/guy and if they're attracted to them it means they themselves are gay.

Quoting Kwitcherbetchen: Why wouldn't it be anti-islamic? A phobia is a fear. just because a person does not like islamic people does not mean they fear them.
Quoting Bookwormy: You realize that messianic Judaism is a denomination of Christianity and not a branch of Judaism, right? Not believing in the bible doesn't mean one is anti-Christian or antisemitic. Not believing in G-d doesn't make you anti-Christian or antisemitic. Believing Jesus is god or the son of G-d does not make you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Jews makes you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Christians makes you anti-Christian. Being hateful towards Muslims makes you Islamophobic. Being hateful towards non-believers makes you a bigot. Etc. Your survey makes no sense. Which is typical.



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by heresjohnny Bronze Member on May. 12, 2016 at 7:44 AM
Religions change over time. Christianity today isn't like it was during Constantine's time. The Bible condones the selling of rape victims, owning slaves, honor killings, etc. And it was all perfectly legal and Biblically justified. So one could argue that he was a "true" Christian (at least in his time), for his actions. So long as he did it in the name of God.

Quoting Raggedylaura:
So basically anti-biblical people do have some form of anti-semetism.   They don't awknowledge that Paul was Jewish and did participate in Sabbath day activities.   Acts 18:4

(4)  And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

Also notice that the verse says EVERY Sabbath.
Then there was Constantine.  If people don't know his moral condition...... He was very supersticious...... and he attempted changing biblical laws.....etc etc.  If he was a 'Christian' then how can a christian be a christian if they murder their own family members?
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by Raggedylaura Member on May. 12, 2016 at 7:47 AM
You mean to say.... Native Amricans deserve to be treated like crap because they are not white and were not refugees?   They may or may not vote for yopur prolife and uour prochoice bad character president.   Their midwives didn't know squat.....as women gave birth unassisted quite frequently.....or with a minimally trained midwife.    No paperwork neccesary to understand what black cohash does.   There fore if you can't treat native american women right you definitely can't treat jewish people right.

Quoting Bookwormy: I don't think that this is a true statistic. I don't think that there are a ton of people with downs syndrome in Israel. Observant Jews restrict abortion to the health or life of the mother, but then it is mandatory to have the abortion More importantly, abortion is perfectly legal in Israel for birth defects, unmarried women, minors, advanced maternal age, rape, & incest. When it isn't legal you can still get a private abortion illegally. A private physician hasn't ever been prosecuted for illegal abortions in Israel. Most importantly, you don't know jack about Judaism, my religion or my culture. Therefore, you are full of shit. ETA: Israel often financially subsidizes legal abortions!
Quoting Raggedylaura:
If a person visits israel..... there will be tons of down syndrome children.   most jewish people don't believe in terminating their own children.....their own future and possibly their only hope.





so it is true.  anti biblical people are also anti semetic since þey are anti down syndrome raising types....haters of the disabled basically.

most Quoting bluerooffarm:
Oh ok.   I'mve been trying to get a handle on this poster, but I've been failing.  I figured it might be a language problem though.

Quoting Momniscient: Well in another post there was ranting about how pro aborts are just as nuts as Down syndrome people... So I think I now get that there is crazy going on.
Quoting bluerooffarm:

Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.






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by bluerooffarm Bronze Member on May. 12, 2016 at 7:52 AM
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What?

Where does Bookwormy say anything at all about Native Americans?  I can't even see where she has said anything that could even lead you to believe the things you are attributing to her!

And I believe that Bookwormy is Jewish....I could be wrong, but I'm almost certain.  So she can't treat herself right?

Quoting Raggedylaura:
You mean to say.... Native Amricans deserve to be treated like crap because they are not white and were not refugees?   They may or may not vote for yopur prolife and uour prochoice bad character president.   Their midwives didn't know squat.....as women gave birth unassisted quite frequently.....or with a minimally trained midwife.    No paperwork neccesary to understand what black cohash does.   There fore if you can't treat native american women right you definitely can't treat jewish people right.

Quoting Bookwormy: I don't think that this is a true statistic. I don't think that there are a ton of people with downs syndrome in Israel. Observant Jews restrict abortion to the health or life of the mother, but then it is mandatory to have the abortion More importantly, abortion is perfectly legal in Israel for birth defects, unmarried women, minors, advanced maternal age, rape, & incest. When it isn't legal you can still get a private abortion illegally. A private physician hasn't ever been prosecuted for illegal abortions in Israel. Most importantly, you don't know jack about Judaism, my religion or my culture. Therefore, you are full of shit. ETA: Israel often financially subsidizes legal abortions!
Quoting Raggedylaura:
If a person visits israel..... there will be tons of down syndrome children.   most jewish people don't believe in terminating their own children.....their own future and possibly their only hope.





so it is true.  anti biblical people are also anti semetic since þey are anti down syndrome raising types....haters of the disabled basically.

most Quoting bluerooffarm:
Oh ok.   I'mve been trying to get a handle on this poster, but I've been failing.  I figured it might be a language problem though.

Quoting Momniscient: Well in another post there was ranting about how pro aborts are just as nuts as Down syndrome people... So I think I now get that there is crazy going on.
Quoting bluerooffarm:

Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.








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by Bookwormy Ruby Member on May. 12, 2016 at 7:59 AM
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I treat American Indian women & Jewish women just fine, lol.

Do you know that I am Jewish and quite active in the local Jewish community? There are no concerns of antisemitism in the Jewish community concerning me!

You associate unrelated topics. I get that they are related to you, but they are beyond tangential to the rest of us. I authentically hope you get help, but do not offer my services anonymously online. Therefore, unless you make sense in the future I will refrain from responding to you or your threads. I bid you good day.

Quoting Raggedylaura:
You mean to say.... Native Amricans deserve to be treated like crap because they are not white and were not refugees?   They may or may not vote for yopur prolife and uour prochoice bad character president.   Their midwives didn't know squat.....as women gave birth unassisted quite frequently.....or with a minimally trained midwife.    No paperwork neccesary to understand what black cohash does.   There fore if you can't treat native american women right you definitely can't treat jewish people right.

Quoting Bookwormy: I don't think that this is a true statistic. I don't think that there are a ton of people with downs syndrome in Israel.

Observant Jews restrict abortion to the health or life of the mother, but then it is mandatory to have the abortion

More importantly, abortion is perfectly legal in Israel for birth defects, unmarried women, minors, advanced maternal age, rape, & incest. When it isn't legal you can still get a private abortion illegally. A private physician hasn't ever been prosecuted for illegal abortions in Israel.

Most importantly, you don't know jack about Judaism, my religion or my culture.

Therefore, you are full of shit.

ETA: Israel often financially subsidizes legal abortions!

Quoting Raggedylaura:
If a person visits israel..... there will be tons of down syndrome children.   most jewish people don't believe in terminating their own children.....their own future and possibly their only hope.

so it is true.  anti biblical people are also anti semetic since þey are anti down syndrome raising types....haters of the disabled basically.

most Quoting bluerooffarm:
Oh ok.   I'mve been trying to get a handle on this poster, but I've been failing.  I figured it might be a language problem though.

Quoting Momniscient: Well in another post there was ranting about how pro aborts are just as nuts as Down syndrome people...

So I think I now get that there is crazy going on.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.


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My God have mercy on your soul

Quoting Raggedylaura:
You mean to say.... Native Amricans deserve to be treated like crap because they are not white and were not refugees?   They may or may not vote for yopur prolife and uour prochoice bad character president.   Their midwives didn't know squat.....as women gave birth unassisted quite frequently.....or with a minimally trained midwife.    No paperwork neccesary to understand what black cohash does.   There fore if you can't treat native american women right you definitely can't treat jewish people right.

Quoting Bookwormy: I don't think that this is a true statistic. I don't think that there are a ton of people with downs syndrome in Israel.

Observant Jews restrict abortion to the health or life of the mother, but then it is mandatory to have the abortion

More importantly, abortion is perfectly legal in Israel for birth defects, unmarried women, minors, advanced maternal age, rape, & incest. When it isn't legal you can still get a private abortion illegally. A private physician hasn't ever been prosecuted for illegal abortions in Israel.

Most importantly, you don't know jack about Judaism, my religion or my culture.

Therefore, you are full of shit.

ETA: Israel often financially subsidizes legal abortions!

Quoting Raggedylaura:
If a person visits israel..... there will be tons of down syndrome children.   most jewish people don't believe in terminating their own children.....their own future and possibly their only hope.

so it is true.  anti biblical people are also anti semetic since þey are anti down syndrome raising types....haters of the disabled basically.

most Quoting bluerooffarm:
Oh ok.   I'mve been trying to get a handle on this poster, but I've been failing.  I figured it might be a language problem though.

Quoting Momniscient: Well in another post there was ranting about how pro aborts are just as nuts as Down syndrome people...

So I think I now get that there is crazy going on.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

Quoting Momniscient: Oh. Ok. I get it now.
Please enlighten me.  Because I don't get it.  At all.





to answer the title question...no. as for what follows....what the what, now? I am genuinely mystified.
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by Raggedylaura Member on May. 12, 2016 at 9:36 AM
Stilll people don't get their concept of good vs. evil







This is slightly reworded from a quote someone else said.   'Good people do good things and evil people do evil things.  When good people do evil things, they are religious.'



So, essentially if a personclaims they are 'good' but they insult christians or biblical things.   THEY ARE DOING EVIL....hence they are RELIGIOUS......hence they are ANTI-SEMETIC.



Even the letters we use to write have elements of semetic origin.   Aleph, beth gimel daleph....... even those who have no wisdom can discern the term 'beth -le- ham' means house where God dwelt.   Those who deny truths from bethleham and support abortion nature filth are simply religious fools.....filled with evil intheir hearts and minds.

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by Raggedylaura Member on May. 12, 2016 at 9:46 AM
I think you are getting 'somewhere'...... native americans were labeled 'cannanites' 'heathens etc. when white men arived.  They followed bible to a 't' but they didn't understand the whole bible apparently.





yes chirstianity changes....but..... eagles don't change the way they fly.   so nature and bible start regenerating to make improved and better ideas for the good will of humanity.  Hence christianity will always find a way of improved dialogue.

Quoting heresjohnny: Religions change over time. Christianity today isn't like it was during Constantine's time. The Bible condones the selling of rape victims, owning slaves, honor killings, etc. And it was all perfectly legal and Biblically justified. So one could argue that he was a "true" Christian (at least in his time), for his actions. So long as he did it in the name of God.
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So basically anti-biblical people do have some form of anti-semetism.   They don't awknowledge that Paul was Jewish and did participate in Sabbath day activities.   Acts 18:4

(4)  And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

Also notice that the verse says EVERY Sabbath.
Then there was Constantine.  If people don't know his moral condition...... He was very supersticious...... and he attempted changing biblical laws.....etc etc.  If he was a 'Christian' then how can a christian be a christian if they murder their own family members?


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by Lady_Facetious Gold Member on May. 12, 2016 at 9:54 AM
Palestinians are Semetic.

Quoting WaterorWine: I tend to find the opposite to be true. It is socially expected of secular liberals to be respectful and tolerant of Jews and Muslims (or any minority) however, this does not apply to Christians. There are a few consistent ones who hate them all, like bill maher.

Unless you consider the anti-Israel pro Palestine people antisemetic? That I can see.
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by Raggedylaura Member on May. 12, 2016 at 9:58 AM
So herod hated 'john the baptist'..... so like all races tribes and tongues....evil gets in their heart and mind.





native american knew that problem before refugee arriaval for more 'religious freedom'





hence here is latest fiancial group that supports Jewish people of the 'rejected' nature.





www.mjaa.org..... secularists deny that even plato aristotle and socrates did in fact quote psalms and proverbs........so their validation always gets skewed by selfishness lingo jingo.

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I still don't understand the connection you are trying to make here. "Anti-biblical" people don't put any value on the stories of Paul. The bible literally has zero impact in the life of one who does not subscribe to the tenets of Christianity, so what does it matter that Paul was Jewish?

Quoting Raggedylaura:
So basically anti-biblical people do have some form of anti-semetism.   They don't awknowledge that Paul was Jewish and did participate in Sabbath day activities.   Acts 18:4

(4)  And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

Also notice that the verse says EVERY Sabbath.
Then there was Constantine.  If people don't know his moral condition...... He was very supersticious...... and he attempted changing biblical laws.....etc etc.  If he was a 'Christian' then how can a christian be a christian if they murder their own family members?


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by heresjohnny Bronze Member on May. 12, 2016 at 10:09 AM
But what does that have to do with antisemitism?

Quoting Raggedylaura:
I think you are getting 'somewhere'...... native americans were labeled 'cannanites' 'heathens etc. when white men arived.  They followed bible to a 't' but they didn't understand the whole bible apparently.

yes chirstianity changes....but..... eagles don't change the way they fly.   so nature and bible start regenerating to make improved and better ideas for the good will of humanity.  Hence christianity will always find a way of improved dialogue.

Quoting heresjohnny: Religions change over time. Christianity today isn't like it was during Constantine's time. The Bible condones the selling of rape victims, owning slaves, honor killings, etc. And it was all perfectly legal and Biblically justified. So one could argue that he was a "true" Christian (at least in his time), for his actions. So long as he did it in the name of God.

Quoting Raggedylaura:
So basically anti-biblical people do have some form of anti-semetism.   They don't awknowledge that Paul was Jewish and did participate in Sabbath day activities.   Acts 18:4

(4)  And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

Also notice that the verse says EVERY Sabbath.
Then there was Constantine.  If people don't know his moral condition...... He was very supersticious...... and he attempted changing biblical laws.....etc etc.  If he was a 'Christian' then how can a christian be a christian if they murder their own family members?
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by 4ofSpades New Member on May. 12, 2016 at 10:14 AM
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I seriously thought I read "anti bacterial" people

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by romalove Roma on May. 12, 2016 at 10:30 AM
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That would make more sense than the OPs assertions here.

Quoting 4ofSpades:
I seriously thought I read "anti bacterial" people

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by bluerooffarm Bronze Member on May. 12, 2016 at 10:35 AM
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“You’re on the Island of Conclusions.”
“But how did we get here?” asked Milo.
“You jumped, of course,” explained Canby. “That’s the way most everyone gets here. It’s really quite simple: every time you decide something without having a good reason, you jump to Conclusions whether you like it or not. It’s such an easy trip to make that I’ve been here hundreds of times.”
“But this is such an unpleasant looking place,” Milo remarked.
“Yes, that’s true,” admitted Canby; “it does look much better from a distance.”

~The Phantom Tollbooth




by EarlGrayHot on May. 12, 2016 at 10:47 AM
You make no sense at all.

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by 4evrinbluejeans KK on May. 12, 2016 at 10:47 AM
I think you are once again incorrect.  People that do not believe in a God do not necessarily disbelieve that the people within the Bible did not exist; and if they existed they were more than likely Jewish since that was the religion of the time and area in question.

Many Christians commit atrocious acts of violence against their families and others almost daily.  The prerequisite for considering one's self Christian is simply to be believe that Jesus was the son of God and to believe in his teachings.

I don't think you know many people outside of your closed circle.  Your posts read as someone who truly has lived a very narrow existence.

Quoting Raggedylaura:
So basically anti-biblical people do have some form of anti-semetism.   They don't awknowledge that Paul was Jewish and did participate in Sabbath day activities.   Acts 18:4

(4)  And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

Also notice that the verse says EVERY Sabbath.
Then there was Constantine.  If people don't know his moral condition...... He was very supersticious...... and he attempted changing biblical laws.....etc etc.  If he was a 'Christian' then how can a christian be a christian if they murder their own family members?


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by FromAtoZ AllieCat on May. 12, 2016 at 11:01 AM
What the hell?

Reading through the thread didn't help me.



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by Element5 Bronze Member on May. 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM
I am a Jew but not religious at all.. I have yet to meet a Christian that hates Jew .. Lol at least not to my face!

One time I did get scared as a teenager.. Came home to my parents home and saw a handsome guy doing my parents fence! Got hot he took off his shirt and I saw a huge I mean HUGE eagle on this back with a swastika for its heart and a cross on the guys chest.

So I am curious...
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by D-Town Platinum Member on May. 12, 2016 at 11:46 AM
I am familiar with the Armenian genocide. It was one of those lessons Hitler based his own gender code upon. That and the genocide of native Americans that we did.


I think you may have forgotten the attempted genocide of the Jews instituted by the church on multiple occasions. First during the rise to power in Roman times and the massive one during the time of the Black Death. Apparently it isn't just non Christians who are capable of genocide. (Of course the church also is the only organization to actually succeed in wiping out entire religions so far so your drug induced theory is already blown out of the water)


That doesn't take into consideration the crusades including the current crusade we are fighting. The eradication of women. The eradication of Latino and Polynesian cultures.

Quoting Raggedylaura:
Hatred comes from inside your inability to recognize you are an unjust person from the beginning.  I have cousins who look like the 'boston bomber'........ they cleverly hate the muslim religion but put up with it.   perhaps you can't remember anything about the armenian genocide??????   That explains your foolish talk and anti-christ behaviours.

Quoting D-Town:
Probably because the hatred stems from fear. People who hate Muslims do so because they are afraid that the Arab person sitting 4 rows in front of them has a bomb strapped to their chest and are going to take the whole plane/bus/taxi/building down with them. People who are homophobic are afraid that they will "catch the gay" or that it is somehow contagious. They're going to catch AIDS if they sit next to one. They're transphobic because they're afraid that the cute guy/girl they were flirting with might actually be a girl/guy and if they're attracted to them it means they themselves are gay.

Quoting Kwitcherbetchen: Why wouldn't it be anti-islamic? A phobia is a fear. just because a person does not like islamic people does not mean they fear them.

Quoting Bookwormy: You realize that messianic Judaism is a denomination of Christianity and not a branch of Judaism, right?

Not believing in the bible doesn't mean one is anti-Christian or antisemitic. Not believing in G-d doesn't make you anti-Christian or antisemitic. Believing Jesus is god or the son of G-d does not make you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Jews makes you antisemitic. Being hateful towards Christians makes you anti-Christian. Being hateful towards Muslims makes you Islamophobic. Being hateful towards non-believers makes you a bigot. Etc.

Your survey makes no sense. Which is typical.

Wednesday, May 11, 2016

People who attempt to claim superiority to you and have limited reality.

A. People who have Christian knowledge but deny the power of the gospel.  Often they support the active involvement in mocking, scorning.  They will also cut you off when they do not like your comments.  Example: www.thewartburgwatch.com  Yes occasionally it correctly reports crimes, but many times it enhances criminal behaviours.

B. People who hate the bible or make the various claims that Christians are at fault for the various problems in our world.  Any problem from domestic problems to govt' problems.  They may appear wise with their atheistic wisdom, but they do not know the origin of Christian beliefs and how things get distorted via. Constantine and various false denominations.

C. People who are pro-abortion and slanderous towards disabled.  They will attempt to disable the disabled even more.